Hi, Aha, someone proposed the idea :-) I know that Debian removed distutils from Python stdlib (it is a separate package) for a long time.
You may mention https://github.com/pypa/distutils/ somewhere in the PEP: "Python Module Distribution Utilities extracted from the Python Standard Library". I don't know the future of this project since setuptools now also contains distutils. I would be nice to hear about setuptools maintainers here. setuptools 50.0.0 release didn't go well: it broke many use cases on Debian, Ubuntu and Fedora, etc. See: https://github.com/pypa/setuptools/issues especially https://github.com/pypa/setuptools/issues/2350 For example, Fedora does patch the stdlib distutils with a downstream-only patch, so pip installs into /usr/local rather than /usr. Well, there is likely a way to fix this issue in setuptools, but right now the situation is complicated. Le ven. 4 sept. 2020 à 13:37, Steve Dower <steve.do...@python.org> a écrit : > The final dependency on distutils is CPython itself, which uses it to > build the native extension modules in the standard library (except on > Windows). Because this is a CPython build-time dependency, it is > possible to continue to use distutils for this specific case without > it being part of the standard library. > (...) > After Python 3.12 is started and when the CPython build process no longer > depends on distutils being in the standard library, the entire Lib/distutils > directory and Lib/test/test_distutils.py file will be removed from the > repository. In practical terms, how Python 3.12 will build its extensions if it doesn't contain distutils anymore? Should we vendor a copy of setuptools, just for Python setup.py? So far, Python has no external dependency to be built. It makes it easy to build on various platforms. I would prefer to not have to download something from the Internet to build Python after I downloaded a Python tarball. We already have wheel packages of setuptools and pip in Lib/ensurepip/_bundled/. Victor _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/75KYBX2BOW6TWQM7WR4QKXCFC6UUCRBJ/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
