Hello,

On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 00:00:41 +0300
Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev <python-dev@python.org> wrote:

> Who said "__future__"?

Other people said __future__. And yet other said "it's ok the way it
is, it's better to have it like that then keep not having it". And yet
other said something else (multiple else's). 

> I said "3rd-party library". Independent from
> the CPython project. Maybe even a few of them -- to try out
> conflicting visions that emerged in the discussions.

Such libraries exist for decade(s). MacroPy is a venerable, well-known
macro-capabilities-for-Python solution, which offers a kind of pattern
matching: https://macropy3.readthedocs.io/en/latest/pattern.html .
There're a bunch of other, grep github.

https://github.com/MegaIng/syntax-extensions-pep634 specifically
advertises itself as pure-Python implementation of PEP634 (using a
newer macro library), though I'm not sure how well it's development.
It also of course represents the right way to develop Python - in
Python itself. Sadly, "C" in "CPython" is stuck too deep in many
minds...


Bottom line is however: given the decade(s) old history of pattern
matching in *Python* (usual warning: don't mix up Python and CPython!),
arguing that very resourceful attempt to add pattern matching to the
reference implementation (that's where *CPython* finally pops up),
should be flushed down the toilet and the Python community should be
brought back into decade-long waiting state without a reference
implementation for pattern matching - umm, suggesting that doesn't seem
to be very productive.


> 
> On 06.02.2021 23:58, Steve Holden wrote:
> > My suggestion that it be introduced via __future__ due to its
> > contentious nature met immediate resistance. No point going down
> > that road.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 8:15 PM Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev
> > <python-dev@python.org <mailto:python-dev@python.org>> wrote:
> >
> >     With such a large new area of functionality that's at odds with
> > existing syntax and semantics and a lack of clear vision and
> > agreement, it sounds like this would be better first added as a
> > 3rd-party library to let the syntax and semantics mature. (To allow
> > new syntax, it'll probably be parsing strings in that special
> > syntax.)
> >
> >     (At https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0634/
> > <https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0634/>, there's no indication
> > that this option was considered.)
> >

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Best regards,
 Paul                          mailto:pmis...@gmail.com
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