On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 20:22:55 +0300
Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev <python-dev@python.org> wrote:
> On 24.03.2021 19:58, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 19:45:49 +0300
> > Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev <python-dev@python.org> wrote:  
> >> How does C++ fare in binary compatibility? Last time I checked it out 
> >> (about 10 years ago), there was completely none, every compiler's ABI
> >> was a black box without any guarantees whatsoever.
> >> For any software that's going to dynamically link and exchange binary 
> >> types with other independently produced software, that's a deal breaker.  
> > That depends if you use C++ internally or expose C++ bits in the public
> > API.
> > If you only use C++ internally, binary compatibility is presumably less
> > of an issue.  
> 
> Python produces and accepts its internal types in API calls and allows 
> extension modules to derive from them -- so it cannot "only use C++ 
> internally" if those are going to become C++ types. (And if not, the point of 
> using C++ is unclear.)

You can use C++ without exposing C++ types in the API.  For example,
C++ templates could improve the maintainability of the generic
"stringlib" routines that are currently based on C macros.  Another
example is using RAII in function bodies to help cleanup owned
references.

Regards

Antoine.


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