On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 8:01 PM Terry Reedy <tjre...@udel.edu> wrote:

> On 4/1/2021 9:38 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 2:18 PM Mark Shannon <m...@hotpy.org
> > <mailto:m...@hotpy.org>> wrote:
> >     Almost all the changes come from requiring __match_args__ to be a
> tuple
> >     of unique strings.
>
> The current posted PEP does not say 'unique' and I agree with Guido that
> it should not.
>

(Of course, "the current PEP" is highly ambiguous in this context.)

Well, now I have egg on my face, because the current implementation does
reject multiple occurrences of the same identifier in __match_args__. We
generate an error like "TypeError: C() got multiple sub-patterns for
attribute 'a'". However, I cannot find this uniqueness requirement in PEP
634, so I think it was a mistake to implement it.

Researching this led me to find another issue where PEP 634 and the
implementation differ, but this time it's the other way around: PEP 634
says about types which accept a single positional subpattern (int(x),
str(x) etc.) "for these types no keyword patterns are accepted." Mark's
example `case int(real=0, imag=0):` makes me think this requirement is
wrong and I would like to amend PEP 634 to strike this requirement.
Fortunately, this is not what is implemented. E.g. `case int(1, real=1):`
is accepted and works, as does `case int(real=0):`.

Calling out Brandt to get his opinion. And thanks to Mark for finding these!


> > Ah, *unique* strings. Not sure I care about that. Explicitly checking
> > for that seems extra work,
>
> The current near-Python code does not have such a check.
>

Again, I'm not sure what "the current near-Python code" refers to. From
context it seems you are referring to the pseudo code in Mark's PEP 653.


> > and I don't see anything semantically suspect in allowing that.
>
> If I understand the current pseudocode correctly, the effect of 's'
> appearing twice in 'C.__match_args__ would be to possibly look up and
> assign C.s to two different names in a case pattern.
>
> I would not be surprised if someone someday tries to do this
> intentionally.  Except for the repeated lookup, it would be similar to a
> = b = C.s.  This might make sense if C.s is mutable.  Or the repeated
> lookups could yield different values.
>

Yes, and this could even be a valid backwards compatibility measure, if a
class used to have two different attributes that would in practice never
differ, the two attributes could be merged into one, and someone might have
a pattern capturing both, positionally. That should keep working, and
having a duplicate in __match_args__ seems a clean enough solution.

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