On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 9:18 AM Mark Shannon <m...@hotpy.org> wrote:

> Hi Terry,
>
> On 13/05/2021 5:32 am, Terry Reedy wrote:
> > On 5/12/2021 1:40 PM, Mark Shannon wrote:
> >
> >> This is an informational PEP about a key part of our plan to improve
> >> CPython performance for 3.11 and beyond.
> >
> >> As always, comments and suggestions are welcome.
> >
> > The claim that starts the Motivation section, "Python is widely
> > acknowledged as slow.", has multiple problems. While some people
> [...]

> different runtime.
>
> I broadly agree, but CPython is largely synonymous with Python and
> CPython is slower than it could be.
>
> The phrase was not meant to upset anyone.
> How would you rephrase it, bearing in mind that needs to be short?
>
> "There is broad interest in improving the performance of pure Python code.
[optionally: The integration of powerful numerical and other algorithms
already makes Python competitive at intensive computations, but programmers
whose main interest is in solving non-programming problems cannot
generally create such solutions.]"

[...]

hopefully make it less of a concern.
>
> Of course, compared to the environmental disaster that is BitCoin, it's
> not a big deal.


Every little helps. Please switch off the light as you leave the room.

[...]

> It is still important to speed up Python though.
>
> Agreed.


> If a program does 95% of its work in a C++ library and 5% in Python, it
> can easily spend the majority of its time in Python because CPython is a
> lot slower than C++ (in general).
>
> That's a pretty loose statement, but I see no reason to quibbe about the
details. There's room for improvement, and improvement will be welcome.
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