On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 6:01 PM Guido van Rossum <[email protected]> wrote:

> What a mess! I hope the PSF is healthy enough that that will never happen
> to us.
>

Well, yes, so do I! :) In reality, though, I would say that the PSF has
enough safe-guards, checks and balances, community support and legal clout
to prevent this kind of thing. Freenode had none of that, just a company
created for their conferences which then assumed control over the rest of
the IP.

(This kind of thing is one of the reasons it's important for the PSF
membership and PSF board to adequately represent the actual Python
community. PSF Board elections are soon! Everyone should think about
running for the board :)


> On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 8:55 AM Ammar Askar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> This section on wikipedia
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenode#Ownership_change_and_conflict
>> and this article have a good summary:
>>
>> https://hackaday.com/2021/05/20/freenode-debacle-prompts-staff-exodus-new-network/
>>
>> Essentially what happened is that freenode was bought out a while ago
>> by a company, there was some dispute over access between the "rightful
>> owners" and the self-organized freenode staff. This caused the
>> freenode staff to resign and start a new network called libera.chat.
>> After that a bunch of channels moved over to libera chat and most
>> recently if your topic mentioned libera.chat, the new freenode owners
>> will take it over, ban anyone from chatting in it and change the topic
>> (as happened with #python-fr).
>>
>
>
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