> I was expected the announcement of a BDFL delegate for PEP 657, as the
author is a steering council member.

Just to clarify this: as I was the author I didn't get to vote on the
approval or rejection of the PEP. Also, there is nowhere that I know where
this situation requires a BDFL delegate like you claim.

> It seems that a PEP submitted by a SC member has been accepted by the SC
with seemingly no external review.

That is very not true. We have added ton of beedback for at least 2
python-dev threads and a discourse thread:

*
https://discuss.python.org/t/pep-657-include-fine-grained-error-locations-in-tracebacks/8629
*
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/thread/DB3RTYBF2BXTY6ZHP3Z4DXCRWPJIQUFD/
*
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/thread/KR7ACFCUNMHT4M7R4XNHGRFV27HZBDFD/#KR7ACFCUNMHT4M7R4XNHGRFV27HZBDFD

The design has been iterated many times and we have draft implementations
from some of the alternative ideas as the ones proposed by Nathaniel.

> interact poorly with debugging and profiling.

"interact poorly with debugging and profiling." is making unfounded claims,
which is especially bad for a feature that is supposed to aid debugging.
You mentioned your worries on
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/thread/KR7ACFCUNMHT4M7R4XNHGRFV27HZBDFD/#KR7ACFCUNMHT4M7R4XNHGRFV27HZBDFD
and we answered them.

Kind regards,
Pablo




On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 at 16:30, Mark Shannon <m...@hotpy.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was expected the announcement of a BDFL delegate for PEP 657, as the
> author is a steering council member.
>
> It seems that a PEP submitted by a SC member has been accepted by the SC
> with seemingly no external review.
>
> PEP 657 is likely to cause significant worsening of start up time and
> interact poorly with debugging and profiling.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Mark.
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