On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 9:43 AM Richard Damon <rich...@damon-family.org> wrote:
> > > On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org> wrote: > > > At best it shows that deprecations are complicated no matter how well you > plan them. I remember that "noisy by default" deprecation warnings were > widely despised. > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 6:49 AM Antoine Pitrou <anto...@python.org> wrote: > >> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 15:17:41 +0100 >> Victor Stinner <vstin...@python.org> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > My colleagues Tomáš Hrnčiar and Miro Hrončok made good progress on >> > updating Python 3.10 to Python 3.11 in Fedora, but some specific >> > Python 3.11 incompatible changes are causing more troubles than >> > others: >> > >> https://discuss.python.org/t/experience-with-python-3-11-in-fedora/12911 >> > >> > We propose to revert the following 2 changes in Python 3.11 and >> > postpone them in a later Python version, once most projects will be >> > compatible with these changes: >> > >> > * Removal of unittest aliases (bpo-45162): it broke 61 Fedora packages >> > * Removals from configparser module (bpo-45173) - broke 28 Fedora >> packages >> >> Doesn't this show, once again, that making DeprecationWarning silent by >> default was a mistake? >> >> > -- > --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido) > *Pronouns: he/him **(why is my pronoun here?) > <http://feministing.com/2015/02/03/how-using-they-as-a-singular-pronoun-can-change-the-world/>* > > > One thought, what if they were off by default UNLESS you were doing unit > tests? > I believe pytest already does this. -Brett > > That would cut out a lot of the excessive noise issue, but put them in > before the programmer when they are developing. Yes, they will get the > warnings for dependencies but that lets the programmer apply pressure to > fix it or warning they may need to change something if it won’t get fixed. > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ > Message archived at > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/UAHZKJNQTMXDORVGX5U5EHKI4HQAV7BN/ > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ >
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