Hi, Steve. Thanks for your detailed explanation. Indeed I already saw the
API discussion in PEP 603. It's much easier to make the decision in a
third-party library. I think we will be fine with the immutables library.

On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 7:05 PM Steve Dower <steve.do...@python.org> wrote:

> On 4/1/2022 11:48 AM, zhang kai wrote:
> > Thanks Victor and Pablo. I will check the discussion of PEP 603. It's a
> > little weird to use the immutables library when it's code in already in
> > CPython but I'm glad it's an option.
>
> The main difference is that 'immutables' offers you a stable/versioned
> interface to use it, while the one that's in CPython is an internal
> implementation detail. If one day we find a better design, we can just
> switch to it, while 'immutables' probably can't. If we've exposed as a
> public interface in the core runtime, it's much more complicated.
>
> (For what it's worth, the major thing that held up contextvars in the
> first place was justifying why it needed a new data structure that
> wasn't already in the core runtime. So we didn't adopt it lightly, and
> making sure we kept the freedom to change it was an important compromise.)
>
> There are plenty of other things in this same category, and because we
> want to keep things as stable as possible while also improving
> performance and reliability, we have to keep pretty tight limits on what
> we promise will remain stable. Most of our discussions are about finding
> this balance ;)
>
> Cheers,
> Steve
>
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