Barney Gale writes: > I did; I think it was a mistake to start discourse without a plan for > shutting down this mailing list.
"Start"? When it was started it was an experiment. Nobody had a strong take on whether Discourse would really take off or not, or even whether there might be a dual-channel mode (admittedly that was relatively unlikely IMO then). Planning to shut down the mailing list wasn't a good idea. Pretty quickly a lot of conversations moved to Discourse (surprisingly to me). But there was still a fair amount of resistance, and a number of people requested at minimum better threading for the Discourse mail interface, which took a while but eventually was accomplished. IMO its only been in the last 4-6 months that shutting down Python-Dev became a realistic option, as traffic disappeared and the biggest common complaint about Discourse was mostly resolved[1]. AFAICS the biggest issue with keeping Python-Dev is that it allows the hope that dev conversations will return to email, and that just seems unlikely to me. A few people will try to use it, and they'll be directed to Discourse after short conversations. The only real cost I see is to the admins, and that's almost zero for the site admin. I can't speak to the cost to moderators. If they're sick of it, I'd say we can make the list read-only (ie, archive-only) pretty much any time. I'd be sad, but I get the feeling that the only people left reading it are "here for the community", not to develop code, which is happening over on Discourse. I'm sure it would be easy[2] to modify the list of moderation options so that moderators can with discard spam, or send a canned "go post on Discourse, here's an introduction to Python Discourse" message to RealPeople[tm]. Footnotes: [1] That's maybe a little unfair. As a Mailman dev and mailing list fan, I've thought a lot about this, and I believe there is a fundamental difference between the completely asynchronous mail protocol and the much more synchronous messaging protocol imposed by most forum software, specifically Discourse. [2] Mailman devs would help, obviously we love Python and would be happy to contribute back. _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/GPZK7G62R4BEYTIQVG24IJ6XWPPTTOCN/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
