Hi all, On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 09:50:49AM -0800, Guido van Rossum wrote: > C extensions are my main worry -- OTOH if += for a list can already > passes arbitrary types as the argument, then any extension types > should be ready to expect this, right?
Yes, I don't think C extensions are going to segfault. My worry is about returning a different result than before. Actually I believe the problem is not specific to C extensions. Here are some typical behavior changes that could be observed in pure Python already: class X(object): def __radd__(self, other): return 42 def __iter__(self): return iter("xyz") def __rmul__(self, other): return 42 def __index__(self): return 5 t = [] t += X() print t # current: 42 new: ['x', 'y', 'z'] print [1] * X() # current: 42 new: [1, 1, 1, 1, 1] Another visible difference is that the __add__/__iadd__/__mul__/__imul__ methods of lists, tuples, strings etc., will return NotImplemented instead of raising the TypeError themselves. This could impact user subclasses of these built-in types trying to override and call the super methods, not expecting a NotImplemented result (a reason why NotImplemented should have been an exception in the first place IMHO). (A different bug I found is that [1].__mul__(X()) with an __index__able class X currently raises TypeError, even though [1]*X() works just fine.) This seems to be it on the incompatibility side. I'd vote for the change anyway because the language specs -- as well as PyPy and probably all Python implementations other than CPython -- don't have this double-slot inconsistency and already show the "new" behavior. For what it's worth no CPython test breaks on top of PyPy because of this. If this change is accepted I'll submit a patch for 2.5. A bientot, Armin _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com