At 09:04 PM 6/5/2006 -0400, Jim Jewett wrote: >On 6/4/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > can we please delay the import until it's actually needed? i.e., > > until after some logging option is enabled? > >I have asked her to make this change. > >I don't like the extra conditional dance it causes, but I agree that >not wanting to log is a valid use case. > >On the other hand, the one-time import cost is pretty low for a >long-running process, and eventually gets paid if any other module >calls logging. Would it make more sense to offer a null package that >can be installed earlier in the search path if you want to truly >disable logging?
I notice you've completely avoided the question of whether this should be being done at all. It sounds like Fredrik is -1 on this even for the modules that I'm not -1 on. As far as I can tell, this PEP hasn't actually been discussed. Please don't waste time changing modules for which there is no consensus that this *should* be done. The original discussion that occurred prior to PEP 337's creation discussed only modules that *already* do some kind of logging. There was no discussion of changing *all* debugging output to use the logging module, nor of adding logging to modules that do not even have any debugging output (e.g. pkgutil). _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
