Hello, 2006/6/16, Josiah Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm not a mathematician, and I don't really work with arrays of any > dimensionality, so the need for 0-D subscripting via arr[] while being > cute, isn't compelling to my uses for Python.
Thanks for appreciating its cuteness... > > Now, I appreciate the desire to reduce code length and complexity, but > from what I understand, the ultimate result of such a change to your > code would be to go from: > arr[()] > to: > arr[] > > I don't see how this can reduce lines of code in implementation or use. > At most it is a two characters per use, and a change in documentation > (specifying how you subscript 0-D arrays). If you can show an example > where actual code line count is reduced with this change, I can't > guarantee that I would get behind this proposal in a few months (if the > conversation starts up again), but it may make me feel less that your > proposal is essentially about aesthetics. I meant the extra code for writing a special class to handle scalars, if I decide that the "x[()]" syntax is too ugly or too hard to type, so I write a special class which will allow the syntax "x.value". The extra parentheses might not seem to matter for code using that library, but I intend for people to use it directly, in an interactive way, just like you type an expression in a spreadsheet. I expect that for such a usage, the extra parentheses will be slightly unfun. I know that it's not such a big difference, but I'm not talking about a big change to the language either - it affects less than 20 lines of code (probably could be done with even less), and doesn't cause any problems with anything. I can imagine Guido designing the grammar, thinking, "Should I allow an empty subscript list? No, why should anyone want such a thing? Besides, if someone wants them, we can always add them later." - at least, it may be how I would think if I designed a language. So now, a use was found. Indeed, it is farely rare. But why not to allow it now? Have a good week, Noam _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com