[Collin Winter] >> While I have no opinion on Gregor's app, and while I fully agree that >> new language features and stdlib modules should generally stay out of >> bug-fix point releases, xturtle doesn't seem to rise to that level >> (and hence, those restrictions).
[Martin] > It's a stdlib module, even if no other stdlib modules depend on it; > try "import turtle". > > In the specific case, the problem with adding it to 2.5 is that xturtle > is a huge rewrite, so ideally, the code should be reviewed before being > added. Given that this is a lot of code, nobody will have the time to > perform a serious review. It will be hard enough to find somebody to > review it for 2.6 - often, changes of this size take several years to > review (primarily because it is so specialized that only few people > even consider reviewing it). As a compromise. we could tack Gregor Lingl's module under the Tools directory. This makes the tool more readily available for student use and allows it a more liberal zone to evolve than if it were in the standard library. One other thought -- at PyCon, I talked with a group of educators. While they needed some minor tweaks to the Turtle module, there were no requests for an extensive rewrite or a fatter API. The name of the game was to have a single module with a minimal toolset supporting a few simple programs, just rich enough to inspire, but small enough to fit into tiny slots in the curriculum (one sixth grade class gets is allocated three 55 minute sessions to learn programming). Raymond _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
