Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It takes about one day of using py.test to realize have much
cleaner and more readable its syntax is. Also, writing the
tests is *much* more pleasant. It has the same clean, clear
joy as writing regular python code. By comparison, the code
using unittest.py is javaesque. I've written tons of test with
unittest.py and and find it to be joyless.
I, too, have written tons of tests with unittest.py (and Google's
extensions, which follow the same style), and reviewed even more. I
agree that this is pretty joyless, but I'm not at all sure that the
unittest API is the reason. It seems to me that a main problem with
writing test code is and will always remain due to the need to use
mocks, stubs and other similar techniques (e.g. dependency injection).
Typical test code that I've written or reviewed spends more time
setting up the input conditions for testing than it spends checking
the results. Ten lines of mocking code to one self.assertEqual() call
seems typical.
Maybe Python needs a good mocking module in the standard library. There
are plenty, but we use a particularly nice one at Resolver Systems [1]. :-)
It auto-creates attributes as mocks, allowing you to assert calls made
to all of its children along with convenience methods like
'assert_called_with' and has a companion decorator that patches class /
module level attributes just for the duration of the test.
As we're changing more of our tests over to use these we're finding it
reduces the volume and complexity of our test code.
Michael Foord
[1] Based on http://code.google.com/p/mock/ although there is some
outstanding code to sync back to the project.
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