-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Tarek Ziadé <ziade.tarek <at> gmail.com> writes: >> But I agree that the sizes of the packages are too small now, and it has gone >> to far. Installing a web app like Plone is scary (+100 packages) > > I am working on a TurboGears2-based app and I just did a count of the .egg > packages in the virtualenv. There are 45 of them.... > > People should really stop splitting their work into micro-libraries (with such > ludicrous names as "AddOns" or "Extremes", I might add (*)), and myriads of > separately-packaged plugins (the repoze stuff). The Twisted approach is much > saner, where you have a cohesive whole in a single package.
Monoliths have downsides: consider that fact that the WSGI-complieant HTTP server for Twisted languished for *years* outside the released versions of Twisted: IIRC, the server was released as a separate distribution, but it was not compatible with the released versions of the main Twisted distribution: you had to install a snapshot / alpha of Twisted to get the 'web2' server to work. Repoze ships a number of pieces which may not be interesting to all users: - repoze.bfg is a web-application framework, loosely Zope-like, which reuses a fairly small subset of the Zope libraries. - repoze.who is an web authentication framework, which can be used in conjunction with *any* web application which respsects at least the REMOTE_USER key in the WSGI environment. TurboGears is now using this piece, even though they don't use any other repoze.* packages. - The various "middleware" packages are tiny, conherent, and can be used ad libidem in a WSGI pipeline. WSGI itself, like Unix pipes, favors composition of smaller pieces via a simple API: a given deployment can add stuff like profiling, etc. just be adding a new "layer" in the pipeline. Putting the profiler into a larger package would make it less likely to be used across frameworks. Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJyk8T+gerLs4ltQ4RAiVkAKCJbtyDpYYww30P2SupovVTNx39jgCgtPBF XUEJbfXz5LHqBgpHs+hXrqk= =cNYq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com