On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Jesse Noller <jnol...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Georg Brandl <g.bra...@gmx.net> wrote: >>> Jesse Noller schrieb: >>>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Fredrik Lundh <fred...@pythonware.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> it's revews like this that makes me wonder if releasing open source is >>>>> a good idea: >>>>> >>>>> no egg - worst seen ever, remove it from pypi or provide an egg >>>>> (jensens, 2009-10-05, 0 points) >>>>> >>>>> </F> >>>> >>>> Unfortunately; we're now staring down the barrel of having >>>> youtube-style comments on Python packages on the index. >>> >>> Yes, unfortunately. I originally thought that restricting the commenters >>> to those with a PyPI account would make them useful, but seeing this one >>> (even if it was not intended) and the comment on hgsvn that belongs into >>> a bug tracker instead, I'm not so sure anymore. >>> >>> Georg >> >> There would need to be a fair amount of work to make the system useful >> and almost self-policing. Not to mention people can make plenty of >> fake pypi accounts for pure astroturfing reasons. > > It seems like a worthy cause though. User ratings and comments are the > future for "app store" style sites such as PyPI, and spam > unfortunately comes with the terrain. There are plenty of things we > can learn about fighting spam and other forms of vandalism from other > areas of the social web, including our very own wiki, and other wikis > (WikiPedia survives despite spam). >
I agree that feedback, commentary/etc is a Good Thing; but doing it right is not an easy thing, and typically implementing it poorly leads to spam, people filing bugs in comments, astroturfing, etc. Just on first glance, I could see immediate improvements around: * Moderation * Allowing authors to respond * Flagging as spam * Upvoting/downvoting * Nested conversations And so on. Sites like stackoverflow/reddit/hackernews/etc have spent a lot of time "doing it right". I know, I know - patches welcome. The problem here is that I would make an argument that in the case of PyPI nothing is better than what we have currently. jesse _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
