Zooko O'Whielacronx wrote: > +1 > > For a large number of people [1, 2, 3], setuptools is already a > critical part of Python. Make it official. Let everyone know that > future releases of Python will not break setuptools/Distribute, and > that they can rely on backwards-compatibility with the myriad existing > packages. Make the next release of the distutils standard lib module > be Distribute. > > (Perhaps some people will complain, but they can channel their energy > into improving the new distutils.)
We've had that discussion in past and a few times. setuptools/Distribute is not distutils, just an add-on (and there are others as well). There are good concepts in setuptools, but the implementation is just not suitable for stdlib integration. Hopefully, Distribute can fix the hacks, trim down the number of features to what people really use, add a proper uninstall command and then we can have the add-to-the-stdlib discussion again. Having more competition will also help, e.g. ActiveState's PyPM looks promising (provided they choose to open-source it) and then there's pip. Things look promising, indeed. > Regards, > > Zooko > > [1] The majority of professional developers using Python rely on > setuptools to distribute and to use packages: > > http://tarekziade.wordpress.com/2009/03/26/packaging-survey-first-results/ > [2] setuptools is one of the most downloaded packages on PyPI: > http://pypi.python.org/pypi/setuptools > http://blog.delaguardia.com.mx/tags/pypi > [3] about one fifth of Debian users who install python2.5 also install > python-pkg-resources: > http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=python-setuptools > http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=python2.5 > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/mal%40egenix.com -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Oct 07 2009) >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! :::: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
