On 11 Jul, 2010, at 1:05, Tal Einat wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I would like to propose removing IDLE from the standard library.
> 
> I have been using IDLE since 2002 and have been doing my best to help 
> maintain and further develop IDLE since 2005.
> 
> In recent years IDLE has received negligible interest and attention from the 
> Python community. During this time IDLE has slowly gone downhill. The 
> documentation and tutorials grow increasingly out of date. Cross-platform 
> support has degraded with the increasing popularity of OSX and 64-bit 
> platforms. Bugs take months, and sometimes more than a year, to be solved. 
> Features that have since become common-place, such as having a non-intrusive 
> search box instead of a dialog, are obviously and painfully lacking, making 
> IDLE feel clumsy and out-dated.

Are their patches that fixes these problems? If not, are their at least issues 
on python's tracker?

> 
> For these reasons, I think it would be fitting to remove IDLE from the 
> standard library. IDLE is no longer recommended to beginners, IMO rightfully 
> so, and this was the main reason for its inclusion in the standard library. 
> Furthermore, if there is little or no interest in developing and maintaining 
> IDLE, it should be removed to avoid having buggy and badly supported software 
> in the standard library.

I'm -1 on that.  Several books, including fairly recent ones, use IDLE as the 
IDE for running examples.

Ronald

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