On Aug 04, 2010, at 03:15 PM, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: >On 02:51 pm, ba...@python.org wrote: >>On Aug 04, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >>>I think the issue is that many core developers don't have the reflex >>>to check buildbot state after they commit some changes (or at least >>>on a regular, say weekly, basis), and so gradually the buildbots have >>>a tendency to turn from green to red, one after another. >> >>I'd classify this as a failure of the tools, not of the developers. >>>These post-commit verification steps should be proactive, and scream >>>really >loud (or >>even prevent future commits) until everything is green again. >>>Buildbots themselves can be unstable, so this may or may not be >>>workable, and >changing >>any of this will take valuable volunteer time. It's also unsexy work. > >How hard is it to look at a web page?
That's not the right question :) The real questions are: how hard is it to remember how to find the appropriate web page, how hard is it to know which buildbots are *actually* stable enough to rely on, how hard is it to decipher the results to know what they're telling you? -Barry
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