On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Antoine> Given that few or none of us seem to (want to) actively >> Antoine> contribute to the wiki, I'm afraid python-dev is not the place >> Antoine> to ask. Perhaps a call should be issued on c.l.py ... >> >> It would be nice if you could actually send messages to the people who do >> actually update wiki content. Unfortunately, without donning my cape and >> blue tights, then digging into the users files on the wiki there's no real >> way to do that.
That's bad. I'd really like to see the amount of my contributions so far. How about recording a session on MoinMoin hacking and drafting an upgrade plan? Who's gonna be the driver? > That's a good point actually... why *isn't* there a pydotorg-wiki-sig? > (Aside from the obvious point of nobody ever asking for one). Because Yet Another Mailing List doesn't solve the problem. If you need one - go Google Groups like packaging folks did. Python ML are: 1. require dedicated admin to update, who is not a member of the group 2. don't have search 3. don't have optional thread subscription That's already enough to seek better platform for collaboration. > I must admit, that the various things I've thrown on there myself have > been pretty much fire-and-forget. Without anyone that feels like they > collectively "own" the wiki, the much needed pruning never happens. Community can perfectly manage the stuff without dedicated admins if there is a gameplay in it. I am doing the wiki works when I am redirected to outdated wiki pages from search. But I do it only if it doesn't take me more than 5 minutes, and if I can remember the password (and I know where an edit button is). My advice - subscribe people editing page by default (a checkbox near submit button). This way more people will receive notifications when a page is changed and will be more interested to contribute themselves. Of course, there must be a setting to opt out. > With an admin team behind it, you can also make more use of ACLs to > flag certain parts of the wiki as "official" by making them only > editable by certain people (e.g. only devs, only the triage team, only > the wiki admins). But keeping those user lists up to date is itself > something that requires a strong wiki admin team. That's a dead way. Wiki should be open for everyone. Just need more people subscribed to revert unwelcome changes. That is to make timeline more visible, because on wiki.python.org it is _not_ intuitive. It may worth to see how Mercurial wiki is managed - I've picked up the bookmarks monitoring habit from it. Maybe a design change will help, but again - there is no entrypoint for people with design skills to start. A lot of problems. All on the surface. Mailing list won't help. What's next? -- anatoly t. _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
