On 23/03/2011 01:30, Mark Hammond wrote:
On 23/03/2011 6:12 AM, Michael Foord wrote:
On 22/03/2011 07:21, Mark Hammond wrote:
Hi all,
I've made some changes to the draft PEP and checked it into the PEP
repository as PEP397. The reference implementation is currently being
tracked at http://bugs.python.org/issue11629.


Hey Mark,

One way of supporting alternative implementations (that may not even
have a standard install directory) is allowing configuration. e.g.
config.ini

[paths]
ironpython = c:\Program Files\IronPython 2.7\ipy.exe
ironpython2.7 = c:\Program Files\IronPython 2.7\ipy.exe
jython = c:\Users\foobar\jython2.5\jython.exe

Hi Michael,

I'd have no problem with that in general, but how would you feel about letting the PEP stand as it is without this additional requirement and then treat this as an additional feature to be thrashed out separately? I intentionally worded the PEP to specifically allow these kinds of features to be added outside the PEP process.

For example, I guess the name of the INI file wouldn't be config.ini, and I guess there might need to be a strategy to allow it to exist in multiple places for when users want this feature but don't have write access to the location of py.exe. Then people might want it to be in the cwd, or in any parent of the cwd, etc... Further, it might also be possible to support this with simple environment variables which might wind up being just as (or more) reasonable (the concept of per-user environment variables already exist and a UI already exists for editing them, and it would allow different cmd-prompts to have different "rules" with minimal complexity) - not that I am necessarily advocating this - I'd just prefer the PEP to not get bogged down with those kinds of issues.


Well... I'd rather see the pep implemented as is than not implemented. On the other hand I think it would be a great shame for it to be implemented in a way that excludes-until-someone-else-fixes-it the other implementations. (i.e. I think built-in support for other implementations would be vastly preferable.) It's your PEP though, and I'm still +1 on the idea.

I'm not married to it being a config file - registry entries would be fine (implementations could modify their installers or ship scripts to create the correct entries). I'm not sure about environment variables, I suppose it would be ok - but modifying a single environment variable with multiple paths / interpreters could get icky.

All the best,

Michael

Cheers,

Mark


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