On Thu, 08 Dec 2011 13:27:20 +0100, Barry Warsaw <ba...@python.org> wrote:

On Dec 08, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Vinay Sajip wrote:

Well, if 3.2 remains in use for a longish time, then it is relevant, in the broader context, isn't it? We know how conservative Linux distributions can
be with their Python releases - although most are still releasing 2.x as
their system Python, this could change at some point in the future. Even if it doesn't, there might be a fair user base of people stuck with 3.2 for any number of reasons, and to support them, the change you propose won't help, because some variant of a package will still have to use u() and b(), just
for 3.2 support.

Case in point: Ubuntu 12.04 is a long term support release, meaning 5 years of official support on both the desktop and server. It will ship with Python 2.7
and 3.2 only.

From a Plone perspective, Python 3 support is something that I don't see becoming important for maybe 5 years, so support for 3.2 is simply not an issue for us. Before Plone can consider a move to Python 3 we first need support in the libraries we depend on. For those libraries under active development it seems that compatibility with both 2.x and 3.x is the best way to go. Adding support for u'' to Python 3.x certainly looks like it would cut down the amount of work required for libraries like the Zope Toolkit which already use unicode extensively.

Laurence

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