On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 12:35 PM, André Malo <n...@perlig.de> wrote:
> * Guido van Rossum wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Victor Stinner <victor.stin...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> > frozendict would help pysandbox but also any security Python module,
>> > not security, but also (many) other use cases ;-)
>>
>> Well, let's focus on the other use cases, because to me the sandbox
>> use case is too controversial (never mind how confident you are :-).
>>
>> I like thinking through the cache use case a bit more, since this is a
>> common pattern. But I think it would be sufficient there to prevent
>> accidental modification, so it should be sufficient to have a dict
>> subclass that overrides the various mutating methods: __setitem__,
>> __delitem__, pop(), popitem(), clear(), setdefault(), update().
>
> For the caching part, simply making the dictproxy type public would already
> help a lot.

Heh, that's a great idea. Can you file a bug for that?

>> What other use cases are there?
>
> dicts as keys or as set members. I do run into this from time to time and
> always get tuple(sorted(items()) or something like that.

I know I've done that once or twice in my life too, but it's a pretty
rare use case and as you say the solution is simple enough. An
alternative is frozenset(d.items()) -- someone should compare the
timing of these for large dicts.

-- 
--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
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