Hi,
On 6/21/12 1:20 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote:
On 6/21/12 6:44 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:
Yes. At the very least, there will be updated development snapshots
(which are what buildout uses anyway).
(Official releases are in a bit of a weird holding pattern.
distribute's versioning scheme leads to potential confusion: if I
release e.g. 0.6.1, then it sounds like it's a lesser version than
whatever distribute is up to now. OTOH, releasing a later version
number than distribute implies that I'm supporting their feature
enhancements, and I really don't want to add new features to 0.6... but
don't have time right now to clean up all the stuff I started in the 0.7
line either, since I've been *hoping* that the work on packaging would
make 0.7 unnecessary. And let's not even get started on the part where
system-installed copies of distribute can prevent people from
downloading or installing setuptools in the first place.)
Welp, I don't want to get in the middle of that whole mess. But maybe
the distribute folks would be kind enough to do a major version bump
in their next release; e.g. 1.67 instead of 0.67. That said, I don't
think anyone would be confused by overlapping version numbers between
the two projects.
Oh yeah no problem, if Philip backports all the things we've done like
Py3 compat, and bless more people to maintain setuptools, we can even
discontinue distribute !
If not, I think you are just being joking here -- we don't want to go
back into the lock situation we've suffered for many years were PJE is
the only maintainer then suddenly disappears for a year, telling us no
one that is willing to maintain setuptools is able to do so. (according
to him)
It's known that they have been diverging for a while.
Yeah the biggest difference is Py3 compat, other than that afaik I don't
think any API has been removed or modified.
In my opinion, distribute is the only project that should go forward
since it's actively maintained and does not suffer from the bus factor.
+1. I can't help but cringe when I read this (sorry, PJ Eby!):
"Official releases are in a bit of a weird holding pattern." due to
distribute.
Weren't they in a bit of a weird holding pattern before distribute?
Haven't they always been in a bit of a weird holding pattern?
Let's let setuptools be setuptools and distribute be distribute i.e. as
long as distribute exists, I don't care at all about setuptools' release
schedule (c.f. PIL/Pillow) and I like it that way :-). If one day
setuptools or packaging/distutils2 comes along and fixes everything,
then distribute can cease to exist.
Alex
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