On 15 Aug, 2012, at 11:30, Ned Deily <n...@acm.org> wrote: > > > > 3. Download instructions and Xcode > > Jesse: >> I also concur with Raymond that the download/install instructions could be >> simplified. Noting for users that rather than downloading Xcode, they can >> just download the OSX Command Line Tools installer and easy_install/pip/etc >> will just work would also be nice > > The Mac section of the Python docset is woefully out-of-date (from long > before I got involved!) and I plan to give it a major update for 3.3.0. > The whole business of what's needed to build extension modules on OS X > got *much* more complicated with Xcode 4 (the default for 10.7 and 10.8) > and each minor release of Xcode 4 has brought new changes. The > introduction of the stand-alone Command Line Tools (with Xcode 4.2?) was > a nice addition but there are gotchas with using it, for example, > extension building with current Python 3.2.3 installers do not work > out-of-the-box with the CLT because the CLT do not provide SDKs. 2.7.3 > is better but neither of the current 32-bit installers will work out of > the box with Xcode 4. A lot of work has gone into 3.3.0 to make > extension building and building Python itself play more nicely with > Xcode 4 without breaking support for older versions. Some subset of > that support will get backported for 2.7.4 and 3.2.4 once 3.3.0 is done. > > Also, if network bandwidth and disk space usage are not major concerns, > it may now be procedurally easier for most people to install Xcode 4 > than the Command Line Tools package since the former is now available > for free download from the Mac App Store while the latter still requires > registering for a (free) Apple Developer Id and download from the Apple > Developer site. And since Xcode 4 has been partitioned up into smaller > downloadable components, the Xcode download is smaller as it is not > necessary to download everything (including iOS development tools) as > was the case with Xcode 3.
Another advantage of installing all of Xcode is that the appstore will warn when a new version is available, and when you start Xcode you can still install the command-line tools (and Xcode will warn when that installation is out of date). Ronald
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