On 8/18/2012 5:27 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 17:17:14 -0400
Terry Reedy <tjre...@udel.edu> wrote:
The issue came up in python-list about string operations being slower in
3.3. (The categorical claim is false as some things are actually
faster.) Some things I understand, this one I do not.

Win7-64, 3.3.0b2 versus 3.2.3
print(timeit("c in a", "c  = '…'; a = 'a'*1000+c")) # ord(c) = 8230
# .6 in 3.2, 1.2 in 3.3

I get opposite numbers:

Just curious, what system?

$ python3.2 -m timeit -s "c = '…'; a = 'a'*1000+c" "c in a"
1000000 loops, best of 3: 0.599 usec per loop
$ python3.3 -m timeit -s "c = '…'; a = 'a'*1000+c" "c in a"
10000000 loops, best of 3: 0.119 usec per loop

However, in both cases the operation is blindingly fast (less than
1µs), which should make it pretty much a non-issue.

The current default 'number' of 1000000 is higher that I remember. Good to know.

Why is searching for a two-byte char in a two-bytes per char string so
much faster in 3.2? Is this worth a tracker issue (I searched and could
not find one) or is there a known and un-fixable cause?

I don't think it's worth a tracker issue. First, because as said above
it's practically a non-issue. Second, given the nature and depth of
changes brought by the switch to the PEP 393 implementation, an
individual micro-benchmark like this is not very useful; you'd need to
make a more extensive analysis of string performance (as a hint, we
have the stringbench benchmark in the Tools directory).

It is not in my 3.3.0b2 windows install, but I have heard of it. Another good reminder. My main interest was in refuting '3.3 strings ops are always slower'. Both points above are also good 'ammo'. I am sure this discussion will re-occur after the release.

--
Terry Jan Reedy


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