Guido van Rossum writes:

 > I'm not sure I understand you. :-(

My apologies.  This:

 > > Or is this something deeper, that a group *is* a new object in
 > > principle?
 > 
 > No, I just think of it as returning "a string" and I think it's most
 > useful if that is always an immutable object, even if the target
 > string is some other bytes buffer.

is exactly the kind of answer I was looking for.

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