In article <252c50d8-c23d-438d-bae1-b22e0d65a...@gmail.com>, Raymond Hettinger <raymond.hettin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Our current Mac OS X builds use GCC-4.2. > > On Python2.7, I ran a comparison of gcc-4.2.1 builds > versus gcc-4.8.1 and found that the latter makes a much > faster Python. PyBench2.0 shows the total running time > dropping from 5653ms to 4571ms. The code is uniformly > better in just about every category.
Interesting. A note about compilers: it looks like the benchmark used the Apple gcc4.2-frontend / LLVM-backend hybrid compiler that is shipped with Xcode 4. We don't use that compiler for building any OS X binary installers, in fact, we blacklist it for Python 3.3+ because we couldn't get it to produce a working 3.3 interpreter: http://bugs.python.org/issue13241 Apple has deprecated use of that compiler (it hasn't been patched in ages) and has announced that it will no longer be shipped starting with the next major release of Xcode, which is expected with the upcoming release of OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). What would be interesting is to run the benchmark with Apple's currently supported compiler for OS X, clang, which is the default "cc" in the most recent versions of Xcode 4 (4.6.3) for OS X 10.7 and 10.8. $ cc --version Apple LLVM version 4.2 (clang-425.0.28) (based on LLVM 3.2svn) Clang is expected to be the only compiler available via Xcode for 10.9. Note that the most recent Python binary installers default to using clang to build user extension modules with Xcode 4 on 10.7 and 10.8. Currently, for the Intel-only (64-bit/32-bit) installers we instead use the final Apple-supplied gcc-4.2 (gcc front- and backend, no LLVM) shipped with Xcode 3.2.6 on OS X 10.6: [GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5666) (dot 3)] on darwin] This makes it easier to provide one Python that can be installed and works on multiple OS X versions, for the Intel-only variant: 10.6 through 10.8. As of Xcode 4, Apple no longer ships this compiler. Because of the post-4.2 switch to GPL-3 licensing for gcc, it seems that Apple has no plans to look at, much less ship, anything newer than 4.2 from the gcc code base. At some point, we will probably switch to using clang for the Python in the installer but, at the moment, there appear to still be a large number of systems out there running OS X 10.6. (Also, we and most third-party open-source package managers, like MacPorts and Homebrew, stick to using Apple-supplied compilers for most things rather than vanilla Gnu gcc 4.x because, among other things, Apple includes additional support within their compiler build chain for features like universal binaries and SDK support.) -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
