On Sep 17, 2013, at 12:25 PM, "R. David Murray" <rdmur...@bitdance.com> wrote:
> This PEP looks great to me. Thanks to everyone involved. > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 00:46:01 +1000, Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Reducing the burden of actually installing a third-party package should >> also decrease the pressure to add every useful module to the standard >> library. This will allow additions to the standard library to focus more >> on why Python should have a particular tool out of the box instead of >> using the general difficulty of installing third-party packages as >> justification for inclusion. > > I don't think this PEP changes the inclusion calculus, because I don't > think we've given any real weight to that in stdlib inclusion decisions. > I think the decision making is already focused on why Python should have > a particular tool out of the box. When I originally wrote this statement I wasn't trying to say that modules were included because of the lack of an easy installer, but instead that a not insignificant number of people had wanted to include stuff and some of their reasoning that I had seen in the past included the difficulty in bootstrapping the installer. So it decreases the *pressure* from others to include stuff for connivence not that it necessarily changes how python-dev itself weighs the decision to do so (but it might for some people?). > > The only context I recall where "installation difficulty" has been > considered relevant is the issue of corporate users restricted from > installing 3rd party packages...which will not be affected at all by > this PEP. > > --David > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/donald%40stufft.io ----------------- Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA
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