On 11/21/2013 5:13 PM, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Quoting Greg Ewing <greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz>:
Concerning the version number, I thought the intention of
PEP 404 was simply to say that the PSF would not be releasing
anything called Python 2.8, not to forbid anyone *else*
from doing so.
Or am I wrong about that?
That's correct.
If I'm right, there's nothing stopping Christian from
releasing Stackless Python 2.8 with whatever improvements
he wants.
"Nothing stopping" is exactly right. People still don't need
to like it. Barry wishes there was something stopping him,
and be it a lawyer invoking trademark law.
My lay knowledge of US Trademark law and case history and reading of
http://www.python.org/psf/trademarks/
suggests that 'nothing stopping' is exactly wrong. I believe the
trademark has also been registered in Europe.
As usual, 'I am not a lawyer', but if Christian wants to push forward
with using 'Python 2.8', I suggest that he consult the PSF Trademark
Committee and lawyer first.
If "2.8" was just a version number of Stackless Python not
related to Python version (like PyPy's version number currently
being 2.2), protest would be much less.
But it is *not* unrelated.
People fear that
releasing Stackless Python 2.8 would create the impression that
even CPython has continued development, and it might require
significant PR efforts to educate people.
Yep, I do. 'Stackless 10' would have no issue.
---
I think two unrelated issues are being mixed together in this thread
that really should be two separate thread.
1. Compiling Windows CPython x.y with more than one compiler. This is
not specifically a Stackless issue or even a 2.7 issue. If 3.4 is
released compiled with VS2010, there will be people wanting it compiled
with VS2013(12?). And vice versa.
2. Public releases of new Python versions based on 2.7 that are not 3.x.
How they are named is an issue regardless of what Windows compiler is
used, if indeed a release even uses one. In my view, either no one
should be allowed to call something 'X Python 2.8' (or any unofficial
x.y), or everyone should. The latter might mean that we see Stackless
Python 2.8, Ubuntu Python 2.8, RedHat Python 2.8, ActiveState Python
2.8, Enthought Python 2.8, etc, all different. I prefer no one.
--
Terry Jan Reedy
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