On 14 Jan 2014 19:11, "Stephen J. Turnbull" <step...@xemacs.org> wrote: > > Nick Coghlan writes: > > > "Give up" makes it sound like I got tired of arguing without being > > convinced rather than admitting I was just plain wrong. > > I thought it was something in between (you explicitly said "lenient > PEP 460" doesn't hurt you, but my understanding was you still believe > that there's a safer way, and it's the latter you aren't going to try > to convince folks of).
I did say that at one point (when Guido first objected to the formatb idea), but I switched to complete agreement after he pointed out the ASCII assumption embedded in the formatting syntax itself. > > > While I'll still work on the asciistr proposal, > > Thank you for that. I really wish I had time to, myself, but not for > several weeks... :-( Heh, depending on how many quirky edge cases we find, we may still be working on it by then, especially since there are still a few docs updates and other fixes I want to get into Python 3.4. > > that's unrelated to PEP 460 - it's about making hybrid APIs less > > "It" refers to asciistr or to PEP 460? asciistr > > painful to write in Python 3 when you're willing to place the > > burden of ensuring ASCII compatibility of binary data on the > > calling code. > > Versus what? Versus doing explicit decoding the way urllib.parse does - it only accepts strict 7-bit ASCII as binary input by default, so you have to decode to text externally in order to handle arbitrary input that may contain other bytes. Cheers, Nick. >
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