On 4/14/2014 5:16 PM, Donald Stufft wrote:

On Apr 14, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org
<mailto:gu...@python.org>> wrote:

On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Donald Stufft <don...@stufft.io
<mailto:don...@stufft.io>> wrote:

    On Apr 14, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Terry Reedy <tjre...@udel.edu
    <mailto:tjre...@udel.edu>> wrote:

    > On 4/14/2014 11:32 AM, Steve Dower wrote:
    [...]
    >> However unfair
    >> and incorrect it may be, there is a perception in some businesses
    >> that open-source projects do not want contributions from them.

I took this to mean that they think any 'do not want' is peculiar to them as from a business. Perhaps I was wrong to project that on them.

    > For PSF/CPython, this is so untrue that it looks to me like an
    excuse to take without giving back.

What I meant would be untrue would be a claim that this project does not want contributions in particular from people in business organizations. A generic claim that pydev is unwelcoming or sometimes off-putting to newcomers, for instance, would be a different issue.

    As someone who *has* given back, I can certainly understand why
    someone would feel that way. It often times *does* feel like
    CPython doesn’t want contributions.

Donald, your remark in itself sounds unnecessarily (and
unproductively!) passive-aggressive. What have we done wrong to you,
and what can we do to avoid making the same mistake in the future (to
you, and to others)?

Hmm, I’m sorry if I came across that way. I didn’t mean to. I do think
contributing directly to CPython is often times off-putting to people

Change 'often' to 'sometimes' and I would agree.

--
Terry Jan Reedy


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