May the true owner of buildbot.python.org stand up! (But I do think there may well not be anyone who feels they own it. And that's a problem for its long term viability.)
Generally speaking, as an organization we should set up a process for managing ownership of *all* infrastructure in a uniform way. I don't mean to say that we need to manage all infrastructure uniformly, just that we need to have a process for identifying and contacting the owner(s) for each piece of infrastructure, as well as collecting other information that people besides the owners might need to know. You can use a wiki page for that list for all I care, but have a process for what belongs there, how/when to update it, and even an owner for the wiki page! Stuff like this shouldn't be just in a few people's heads (even if they are board members) nor should it be in a file in a repo that nobody has ever heard of. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:33 AM, Donald Stufft <don...@stufft.io> wrote: > > On Jul 8, 2014, at 12:58 AM, Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 7 Jul 2014 10:47, "Guido van Rossum" <gu...@python.org> wrote: > > > > It would still be nice to know who "the appropriate persons" are. Too > much of our infrastructure seems to be maintained by house elves or the ITA. > > I volunteered to be the board's liaison to the infrastructure team, and > getting more visibility around what the infrastructure *is* and how it's > monitored and supported is going to be part of that. That will serve a > couple of key purposes: > > - making the points of escalation clearer if anything breaks or needs > improvement (although "infrastruct...@python.org" is a good default > choice) > - making the current "todo" list of the infrastructure team more visible > (both to calibrate resolution time expectations and to provide potential > contributors an idea of what's involved) > > Noah has already set up http://status.python.org/ to track service > status, I can see about getting buildbot.python.org added to the list. > > Cheers, > Nick. > > > We (the infrastructure team) were actually looking earlier about > buildbot.python.org and we’re not entirely sure who "owns" > buildbot.python.org. > Unfortunately a lot of the *.python.org services are in a similar state > where > there is no clear owner. Generally we've not wanted to just step in and > take > over for fear of stepping on someones toes but it appears that perhaps > buildbot.p.o has no owner? > > ----------------- > Donald Stufft > PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 > DCFA > > -- --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
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