We're now thoroughly in python-ideas land.

On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 7:39 AM, Random832 <random...@fastmail.com> wrote:

> Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org> writes:
> > I'm sure that one often catches people by surprise. However, I don't
> > think we can fix that one without also fixing the values of the
> > attributes -- in that example days is -1 and seconds is 86340 (which
> > will *also* catch people by surprise). And changing that would be
> > much, much harder for backwards compatibility reasons-- we'd have to
> > set days to 0 and seconds to -60, and suddenly we have a much murkier
> > invariant, instead of the crisp
> >
> > 0 <= microseconds < 1000000
> > 0 <= seconds < 60
>
> I don't really see it as murky:
>
> 0 <= abs(microseconds) < 1000000
> 0 <= abs(seconds) < 60
> (days <= 0) == (seconds <= 0) == (microseconds <= 0)
> (days >= 0) == (seconds >= 0) == (microseconds >= 0)
>
> The latter are more easily phrased in english as "all nonzero
> attributes have the same sign".  I think the current behavior is
> rather as if -1.1 were represented as "-2+.9".  The attributes
> probably can't be fixed without breaking backwards
> compatibility, though.  How about "-timedelta(0, 60)"?
>
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