I thought you are right. Here is the source code in python 2.7.11: long PyObject_Hash(PyObject *v) { PyTypeObject *tp = v->ob_type; if (tp->tp_hash != NULL) return (*tp->tp_hash)(v); /* To keep to the general practice that inheriting * solely from object in C code should work without * an explicit call to PyType_Ready, we implicitly call * PyType_Ready here and then check the tp_hash slot again */ if (tp->tp_dict == NULL) { if (PyType_Ready(tp) < 0) return -1; if (tp->tp_hash != NULL) return (*tp->tp_hash)(v); } if (tp->tp_compare == NULL && RICHCOMPARE(tp) == NULL) { return _Py_HashPointer(v); /* Use address as hash value */ } /* If there's a cmp but no hash defined, the object can't be hashed */ return PyObject_HashNotImplemented(v); }
If object has hash function, it will be used. If not, _Py_HashPointer will be used. Which _Py_HashSecret are not used. And I checked reference of _Py_HashSecret. Only bufferobject, unicodeobject and stringobject use _Py_HashSecret. On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 11:56:55AM -0800, Glenn Linderman wrote: > > On 2/16/2016 1:48 AM, Christoph Groth wrote: > > >Hello, > > > > > >Recent Python versions randomize the hashes of str, bytes and datetime > > >objects. I suppose that the choice of these three types is the result > > >of a compromise. Has this been discussed somewhere publicly? > > > > Search archives of this list... it was discussed at length. > > There's a lot of discussion on the mailing list. I think that this is > the very start of it, in Dec 2011: > > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2011-December/115116.html > > and continuing into 2012, for example: > > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2012-January/115577.html > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2012-January/115690.html > > and a LOT more, spread over many different threads and subject lines. > > You should also read the issue on the bug tracker: > > http://bugs.python.org/issue13703 > > > My recollection is that it was decided that only strings and bytes need > to have their hashes randomized, because only strings and bytes can be > used directly from user-input without first having a conversion step > with likely input range validation. In addition, changing the hash for > ints would break too much code for too little benefit: unlike strings, > where hash collision attacks on web apps are proven and easy, hash > collision attacks based on ints are more difficult and rare. > > See also the comment here: > > http://bugs.python.org/issue13703#msg151847 > > > > > >I'm not a web programmer, but don't web applications also use > > >dictionaries that are indexed by, say, tuples of integers? > > > > Sure, and that is the biggest part of the reason they were randomized. > > But they aren't, as far as I can see: > > [steve@ando 3.6]$ ./python -c "print(hash((23, 42, 99, 100)))" > 1071302475 > [steve@ando 3.6]$ ./python -c "print(hash((23, 42, 99, 100)))" > 1071302475 > > Web apps can use dicts indexed by anything that they like, but unless > there is an actual attack, what does it matter? Guido makes a good point > about security here: > > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2013-October/129181.html > > > > > I think hashes of all types have been randomized, not _just_ the list > > you mentioned. > > I'm pretty sure that's not actually the case. Using 3.6 from the repo > (admittedly not fully up to date though), I can see hash randomization > working for strings: > > [steve@ando 3.6]$ ./python -c "print(hash('abc'))" > 11601873 > [steve@ando 3.6]$ ./python -c "print(hash('abc'))" > -2009889747 > > but not for ints: > > [steve@ando 3.6]$ ./python -c "print(hash(42))" > 42 > [steve@ando 3.6]$ ./python -c "print(hash(42))" > 42 > > > which agrees with my recollection that only strings and bytes would be > randomized. > > > > -- > Steve > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/shell909090%40gmail.com > -- 彼節者有間,而刀刃者無厚;以無厚入有間,恢恢乎其於游刃必有餘地矣。 blog: http://shell909090.org/blog/ twitter: @shell909090 <https://twitter.com/shell909090> about.me: http://about.me/shell909090
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