On 04/06/2016 05:43 PM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal wrote:

__fspath__

+0.1

But not a big deal. I think this is pretty much for occasional use by
library authors, so not a big deal what it is named.

It's mostly for the stdlib itself. I imagine that most libraries would just take what they are given and pass it along to open or os.stat or whatever.

Which also means that I don't think we need a built-in function that
calls it, either. How often do people need a stringified-path version
of an arbitrary object?

Not often.

Which makes me think: str() calls __str__ on an arbitrary object, and
creates a new string object.

But fspath(), if it exists, would call __fspath__ on an arbitrary
object, and create a new string -- not a new Path. That may be
confusing...

It would be more along the lines of pickle -- give me the standard serialized form of this Path, please.

If we were starting from scratch, I suppose __path__ would return a
Path object -- it would be a protocol one could use to duck-type a
path.

Sure.

But since we have history, we are creating a protocol that conforms to
the existing string-as-path protocol.

Yup.

So are we imagining that future libs will be written that only take
objects with a __fspath__ method? In which case, do we need to add it
to str? In which case, this is all kind of pointless.

We are imagining that future libraries that have to muck about with paths will work with Path objects, either by accepting them or converting to them as the (possibly) stringified paths are passed in -- and when necessary those libs can pass either the Path obj or the stringified path to the stdlib.

Or maybe all future libs will continue to accept either an str or an
object with __fspath__.  In which case, this is pretty pointless, too.

The point is to allow future programs to work with Path and be able to work with the stdlib as seamlessly and painlessly as possible.

I guess what I'm wondering is if we are stuck with str-paths as the
lingua-Franca for paths forever. In which case, we should embrace that
and just call str() on anything passed in as a path argument.

Nah. That's inviting trouble and pain, and we're trying to get away from that.

Sure, then open(3.5) will give you a file not found error, or maybe
create a file with a weird name, but really? Who's going to make that
mistake and not figure it out really quickly?

Well, since the 3.5 was actually in my_var, and could have been written before it was read, it could easily be days, weeks, or even months -- probably after the last guy quit, you took the job, the server died, and you had to restore from backup -- at which point you'll see all the really, really strange file names and wonder what they are. And of course, whatever logic was determining those weird names is now out of sync because of the server swap.

And, yeah, I've seen weirder things happen.

--
~Ethan~
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