On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 at 09:14 Alexander Belopolsky < alexander.belopol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is the current status of the Argument Clinic DSL? The clinic > preprocessor was released [1] with Python 3.4 with a promise [2] "that > signature metadata for programmatic introspection will be added to > additional callables implemented in C as part of Python 3.4 > maintenance releases." We are now close to 3.6 beta and clinic > coverage in stdlib is sparse at best. For example, the math module > makes no use of the clinic (but interestingly a few methods in cmath > do). The documentation is very sparse as well. While one would > expect PEP 436 to serve as *the* documentation while clinic is being > developed, but the PEP has the "Draft" status and has not been updated > since 2013. Furthermore, the 3.4 release notes contain a warning > saying "The Argument Clinic PEP is not fully up to date with the state > of the implementation." It does not look like this situation has > improved since. > I always read https://docs.python.org/3/howto/clinic.html as the documentation and not the PEP. > > The practical question is: does it make sense to invest time in > learning the clinic DSL and converting more modules (e.g. datetime) to > it Yes. Part of the issue is there was a big push to convert modules for the 3.4 release and some of us helped convert however many we can, but then people stopped putting the time in to convert code a module at a time once 3.4 was released. Serhiy has actually been working on a patch to speed up keyword parsing which will automatically be applied to code using Argument Clinic: http://bugs.python.org/issue27574 . > or it is likely that the whole approach will be revised in the > future? > > I don't see it being revised, but maybe Larry has something to say on the matter. > [1] http://bugs.python.org/issue16612 > [2] > https://docs.python.org/3.6/whatsnew/3.4.html?highlight=clinic#pep-436-argument-clinic > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/brett%40python.org >
_______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
