On Saturday, December 10, 2016, Wes Turner <wes.tur...@gmail.com> wrote:

> s/python/pythone28000/g. There; now I can read the diff's.
>
> On Saturday, December 10, 2016, Wes Turner <wes.tur...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wes.tur...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, December 10, 2016, M.-A. Lemburg <m...@egenix.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10.12.2016 10:05, David Mertz wrote:
>>> > I'm forwarding this to the PSF Trademarks committee. If there is a
>>> > violation, it's a misuse of trademark, not copyright on the code which
>>> has
>>> > the Python license stack.
>>> >
>>> > I'm on that committee and agree this is improper use. Let's see what
>>> other
>>> > members think.
>>>
>>> Our trademark policy for the word mark Python does allow
>>> for such use and without asking for permissions:
>>>
>>> https://www.python.org/psf/trademarks/
>>> """
>>> ...
>>> As such, stating accurately that software is written in the Python
>>> programming language, that it is compatible with the Python programming
>>> language, or that it contains the Python programming language, is always
>>> allowed. In those cases, you may use the word "Python" or the unaltered
>>> logos to indicate this, without our prior approval. This is true both
>>> for non-commercial and commercial uses.
>>>
>>> This clause overrides other clauses of this policy.
>>> ...
>>> """
>>>
>>> and this is on purpose, since Python is BSD software which
>>> anyone can use, modify, fork, etc.
>>>
>>>
>> So, otherwise everyone who forks for any reason is in violation of the
>> trademark policy?
>>
>>
>>> The fork also contains a list of differences compared to
>>> Python 2.7 as shipped by the PSF, so the license is fulfilled
>>> as well:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/naftaliharris/python2.8
>>
>>
>> This could be easier (and linked-to):
>> https://github.com/naftaliharris/python2.8/compare/master...
>> python/cpython:2.7
>>
>> https://github.com/python/cpython/compare/2.7...naftaliharri
>> s/python2.8:master
>>
>> git rebase -i?
>>
>>
>>> All that said, I still believe we should contact the author
>>> and ask for a name change to make it clear to our users that
>>> the PSF is not endorsing this fork, nor does it provide
>>> support for it:
>>
>>
>> From README.md: "Python 2.8 is licensed under the Python Software
>> License, (see the LICENSE file for details). This is not an official Python
>> release; see PEP 404 <https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0404/>."
>>
>> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0404/
>>
>
Helpfully, what could this also say?

- Not supported
- Not approved
- Links to cpython hg and git
-


>
>>
>>>
>>> https://github.com/naftaliharris
>>> https://www.naftaliharris.com/contact/
>>>
>>> Regardless of the name, it'll be interesting to see whether
>>> there's demand for such a fork. Without a website, binaries
>>> to download, documentation, etc. it's still in the very early
>>> stages.
>>
>>
>>
>> What could've been! (Intimidating an incompatible fork would be somewhat
>> hypocritical at this point).
>>
>> Do you really think it appropriate to demand a name change because you
>> disagree with the fork's backward compatibility?
>>
>> What a useful list of new features (and potential backports), IMHO
>>
>> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/backports
>>
>> https://github.com/naftaliharris/python2.8/compare/asyncio
>>
>>
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