On 09/06/2017 11:57 PM, Yury Selivanov wrote:
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Greg Ewing wrote:

Here's one way that refactoring could trip you up.
Start with this:

    async def foo():
       calculate_something()
       #in a coroutine, so we can be lazy and not use a cm

Where exactly does PEP 550 encourage users to be "lazy and not use a
cm"?  PEP 550 provides a mechanism for implementing context managers!
What is this example supposed to show?

That using a CM is not required, and tracking down a bug caused by not using a 
CM can be difficult.

How is PEP 550 is at fault of somebody being lazy and not using a
context manager?

Because PEP 550 makes a CM unnecessary in the simple (common?) case, hiding the need for a CM in not-so-simple cases. For comparison: in Python 3 we are now warned about files that have been left open (because explicitly closing files was unnecessary in CPython due to an implementation detail) -- the solution? make files context managers whose __exit__ closes the file.

PEP 550 has a hard requirement to make it possible for decimal/other
libraries to start using its APIs and stay backwards compatible, so it
allows `decimal.setcontext(ctx)` function to be implemented.  We are
fixing things here.

I appreciate that the scientific and number-crunching communities have been a major driver of enhancements for Python (such as rich comparisons and, more recently, matrix operators), but I don't think an enhancement for them that makes life more difficult for the rest is a net win.

--
~Ethan~
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