On Sep 7, 2017, at 07:46, Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org> wrote:

> Without following all this (or the PEP, yet) super exactly, does this mean 
> you are satisfied with what the PEP currently proposes or would you like 
> changes? It's a little unclear from what you wrote.

I’m also unsure whether Terry is good with the existing PEP or suggesting 
changes.

> I think that's true for any IDE that has existing integrated debug 
> capabilities. However for every IDE I would hope that calling breakpoint() 
> will *also* break into the IDE's debugger. My use case is that sometimes I 
> have a need for a *conditional* breakpoint where it's just much simpler to 
> decide whether to break or not in Python code than it would be to use the 
> IDE's conditional breakpoint facilities.

That certainly aligns with my own experience and expectations.  I guess I’m a 
fellow old dog. :)

-Barry

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