On 2017-09-08 07:57, Eric V. Smith wrote:
I've written a PEP for…

Apologies for the following list dumb questions and bikesheds:


- 'Classes can be thought of as "mutable namedtuples with defaults".'

  - A C/C++ (struct)ure sounds like a simpler description that many more
    would understand.

- dataclass name:

    - class, redundant
    - data, good but very common
    - struct, used?
    - Record?  (best I could come up with)


- Source needs blanks between functions, hard to read.

- Are types required?

  Maybe an example or two with Any?


- Intro discounts inheritance and metaclasses as "potentially interfering",
  but unclear why that would be the case.
  Inheritance is easy to override, metaclasses not sure?


- Perhaps mention ORMs/metaclass approach, as prior art:

  https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/db/models/

- Perhaps mention Kivy Properties, as prior art:

  https://kivy.org/docs/api-kivy.properties.html


- For mutable default values:

  @dataclass
  class C:
      x: list  # = field(default_factory=list)

  Could it detect list as a mutable class "type" and set it as a factory
  automatically?

  The PEP/bug #3 mentions using copy, but that's not exactly what I'm asking
  above.
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