On 26 October 2017 at 20:19, Antoine Pitrou <anto...@python.org> wrote:
> > Le 26/10/2017 à 12:15, Victor Stinner a écrit : > > 2017-10-26 12:01 GMT+02:00 Antoine Pitrou <solip...@pitrou.net>: > >> Is it possible to have a > >> pipermail-style UI as an alternative? > > > > I don't know pipermail. Do you have an example? > > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/ :-) > > > The main drawback of Mailman 2 archives is that discussions are > > splitted between each month. It can be a pain to follow a long > > discussion done in multiple months. Sadly, I don't know if Mailman 3 > > handles this case better :-D > > If I take > https://mail.python.org/mm3/archives/list/buildbot-status@ > python.org/thread/MZ7QOZM6V7OALPSYSNSIHGGSLXMQHCF2/ > as an example, I don't think it will allow to follow a long discussion > *at all*. Can you imagine a 100-message thread displayed that way? > If folks want to see MM3 in action with some more active lists, I'd suggest looking at the Fedora MM3 instance, especially the main dev list: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/de...@lists.fedoraproject.org/ There's a 100 message thread about Firefox 57 here, and it's no harder to read than a long thread on any other web forum: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/de...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/K5HSROMAIMNYSJONB5EIAQKWKYNFYSHK/ (if you switch to the strictly chronological display, it's almost *identical* to a web forum) https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/de...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/WKEB6M7J2WTFJBZYD7AZ4JB6J2O6VEWK/ is an example of a thread that was first posted back in July, but then updated more recently when the change slipped from F27 into F28. If you look at the activity for a month, as in https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/de...@lists.fedoraproject.org/2017/10/?count=50, the archiver will show you a single entry for each thread active in that month, with a link through to the consolidate archive view. Pages for individual messages do exist (e.g. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/de...@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/HBA3O755BWRZMTDBBOCUHCKC3RREGTII/ ), and I'd expect Aurelian to be amenable to accepting a PR at https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty if anyone was particularly keen to add pipermail style forward/back buttons to those pages. Similarly, I'd be surprised if anyone objected to a toggle on the thread view page that allowed you to opt in to hiding the full message contents by default (and hence get back to a more pipermail style "Subject-lines-and-poster-details-only" overview). Cheers, Nick. P.S. MM3 supports a multi-archiver design, so it would presumably also be possible to write a static-HTML-only pipermail style archiver that ran in parallel with the interactive web gateway. -- Nick Coghlan | ncogh...@gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia
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