On Thu, 2020-04-30 at 00:38 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 29. 04. 20 21:42, Lloyd Kvam wrote:
> > > What you say is true. I still don't agree that "python3.9" as a package 
> > > name
> > > annoys humans.
> > 
> > I am not a package pro, but simply reading along as an interested human 
> > user. To me, adding
> > periods in package names can be confusing.
> 
> My sentence was about "python3.9" not being more annoying than "python-3.9".
> 
> I wonder, why do you consider periods in names confusing?

It's mostly when I am trying to relate program names, package names, and 
package file names.
And I am also using Ubuntu which has its own Debian quirks and many dots. I'll 
adjust.

> 
> We have around ~100 source package names with dot. Most of them have 
> versions, e.g.:

I know. I am not sure that's an argument for more dots. We're only one hundred 
or so names from
being dot-free would be an alternate take.

> 
> clang9.0
> dotnet3.1
> freerdp1.2
> llvm5.0
> llvm6.0
> llvm9.0
> jboss-jsf-2.1-api
> jboss-jsf-2.2-api
> jboss-jsp-2.2-api
> jboss-jsp-2.3-api
> 
> Some use dot as a separator, e.g.:
> 
> R-R.utils
> R-data.table
> R-futile.logger
> R-futile.options
> R-gamlss.dist
> R-lambda.r
> R-statnet.common
> openoffice.org-diafilter
> python-boolean.py
> 
Why openoffice.org-diafilter rather than openoffice-diafilter?

Most days I can blissfully type dnf upgrade and I'm fairly oblivious to all the 
effort that
goes into making this work. Watching a list like this lets me see the hard work 
that goes into
making my life much easier.

> > I will adjust to whatever you decide to do, and I am not informed enough to 
> > want a vote in
> > how
> > this decision comes down, but I do not see an advantage to this sort of 
> > change.
> 
> The biggest advantage I see is getting closer to upstream.

Which is more important than my aversion to dots. I'll say again that I will 
adjust as
necessary. Make the decision that will work for you.

And thanks for all your efforts packaging up so much great software.



> The command that the user executes is "python3.9", not "python39".
> 
> I know no other place in the Python ecosystem where Python 3.9 is called 
> "python39" than the names of RPM packages (or other Linux distro packages).
> 
> I've googled "python36", "python37" etc. and all I could find was 
> Fedora/RHEL/CentOS related (or AUR). We have invented that naming ourselves 
> and 
> we don't like being different :)
> 
> (There is the "py39" short identifier used e.g. in tox, but not "python39".)
> 
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