> On 15 Feb 2017, at 02:39, Kyle Lahnakoski <klahnako...@mozilla.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 2017-02-14 19:51, Abe Dillon wrote:
>> The point is that the cost of creating the msg argument can be very high.
>>
>> At the point that logging decides to skip output it is to late to save
>> the cost of creating the arg tuple.
>>
>> This sounds like an optimization that's sufficiently rare and complex to
>> warrant a custom fix or a 3rd party library.
>>
>> Not that it is relivent for this idea bit logging's levels are too
>> course for logging in complete
>> applications. The app I am working on at the moment has 20 seperate
>> debug categories
>> that are independently enabled.
>>
>> Holy balls! That sounds like a tortured use of log levels!
>
> That's a funny expression. :)
>
> I have not got to the point of 20 debug categories in a single file, but I
> easily have 20+ debug categories in an application. I previously suggested
> wrapping the expensiveFunction in a lambda, but that is not what I do. I
> prefer using explicit logging switches:
>
> ____if DEBUG_FEATURE_A:
> ________debugLog(msg, expensiveFunction() )
> ____if DEBUG_FEATURE_B:
> ________debugLog(msg2, expensiveFunction2() )
>
> The benefit is clarity at the expense of more lines, while still avoiding the
> expensiveFunction() when I can. Using switches result in a smaller log file,
> because logging is focused on the feature, plus, these switches can still be
> dynamically set from outside the module.
I would like to avoid the if so that the code is more compact if possible.
>
> Log "levels" never made sense to me; how can a single dimension be useful
> substitute for a number of binary switches? With log "levels", you either
> don't have enough logging, or you drown in too much logging (or you manage a
> number of loggers, which is worse than logging switches).
Well said that is indeed the issue with the logger module as is.
>
> But to stick to the theme of language features: I believe there is a
> previous thread that touches on a solution to the original posters problem:
> "Alternative to PEP 532: delayed evaluation of expressions
It is not clear to me from one reading is PEP 532 will allow a class with
__then__ and __else to do what I want.
Would it be something like this:
if not debugLog and (expensive(), args())
Does debugLog get passed the tuple in the __then__?
Barry
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