Even if we could inherit the setting, I would think that we would still
want to require the code be explicit. It seems worse to implicitly require
keyword only arguments for a class without giving any indication in the
code.

As it stands, the current implementation does not allow a later subclass to
be declared without `keyword_only=True` so we could handle this case by
adding a note to the `TypeError` message about considering the keyword_only
flag.

How do I got about putting together a proposal to get this into 3.8?

--George

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 5:12 AM Eric V. Smith <e...@trueblade.com> wrote:

> I'm not completely opposed to this feature. But there are some cases to
> consider. Here's the first one that occurs to me: note that due to the
> way dataclasses work, it would need to be used everywhere down an
> inheritance hierarchy. That is, if an intermediate base class required
> it, all class derived from that intermediate base would need to specify
> it, too. That's because each class just makes decisions based on its
> fields and its base classes' fields, and not on any flags attached to
> the base class. As it's currently implemented, a class doesn't remember
> any of the decorator's arguments, so there's no way to look for this
> information, anyway.
>
> I think there are enough issues here that it's not going to make it in
> to 3.7. It would require getting a firm proposal together, selling the
> idea on python-dev, and completing the implementation before Monday. But
> if you want to try, I'd participate in the discussion.
>
> Taking Ivan's suggestion one step further, a way to do this currently is
> to pass init=False and then write another decorator that adds the
> kw-only __init__. So the usage would be:
>
> @dataclass
>      class Foo:
>          some_default: dict = field(default_factory=dict)
>
> @kw_only_init
> @dataclass(init=False)
> class Bar(Foo):
>      other_field: int
>
> kw_only_init(cls) would look at fields(cls) and construct the __init__.
> It would be a hassle to re-implement dataclasses's _init_fn function,
> but it could be made to work (in reality, of course, you'd just copy it
> and hack it up to do what you want). You'd also need to use some private
> knowledge of InitVars if you wanted to support them (the stock
> fields(cls) doesn't return them).
>
> For 3.8 we can consider changing dataclasses's APIs if we want to add this.
>
> Eric.
>
> On 1/25/2018 1:38 AM, George Leslie-Waksman wrote:
> > It may be possible but it makes for pretty leaky abstractions and it's
> > unclear what that custom __init__ should look like. How am I supposed to
> > know what the replacement for default_factory is?
> >
> > Moreover, suppose I want one base class with an optional argument and a
> > half dozen subclasses each with their own required argument. At that
> > point, I have to write the same __init__ function a half dozen times.
> >
> > It feels rather burdensome for the user when an additional flag (say
> > "kw_only=True") and a modification to:
> > https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/master/Lib/dataclasses.py#L294
>  that
> > inserted `['*']` after `[self_name]` if the flag is specified could
> > ameliorate this entire issue.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 3:22 PM Ivan Levkivskyi <levkivs...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:levkivs...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     It is possible to pass init=False to the decorator on the subclass
> >     (and supply your own custom __init__, if necessary):
> >
> >     @dataclass
> >     class Foo:
> >          some_default: dict = field(default_factory=dict)
> >
> >     @dataclass(init=False) # This works
> >     class Bar(Foo):
> >          other_field: int
> >
> >     --
> >     Ivan
> >
> >
> >
> >     On 23 January 2018 at 03:33, George Leslie-Waksman
> >     <waks...@gmail.com <mailto:waks...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >         The proposed implementation of dataclasses prevents defining
> >         fields with defaults before fields without defaults. This can
> >         create limitations on logical grouping of fields and on
> inheritance.
> >
> >         Take, for example, the case:
> >
> >         @dataclass
> >         class Foo:
> >              some_default: dict = field(default_factory=dict)
> >
> >         @dataclass
> >         class Bar(Foo):
> >              other_field: int
> >
> >         this results in the error:
> >
> >                5 @dataclass
> >         ----> 6 class Bar(Foo):
> >                7     other_field: int
> >                8
> >
> >
>  
> ~/.pyenv/versions/3.6.2/envs/clover_pipeline/lib/python3.6/site-packages/dataclasses.py
> >         in dataclass(_cls, init, repr, eq, order, hash, frozen)
> >              751
> >              752     # We're called as @dataclass, with a class.
> >         --> 753     return wrap(_cls)
> >              754
> >              755
> >
> >
>  
> ~/.pyenv/versions/3.6.2/envs/clover_pipeline/lib/python3.6/site-packages/dataclasses.py
> >         in wrap(cls)
> >              743
> >              744     def wrap(cls):
> >         --> 745         return _process_class(cls, repr, eq, order,
> >         hash, init, frozen)
> >              746
> >              747     # See if we're being called as @dataclass or
> >         @dataclass().
> >
> >
>  
> ~/.pyenv/versions/3.6.2/envs/clover_pipeline/lib/python3.6/site-packages/dataclasses.py
> >         in _process_class(cls, repr, eq, order, hash, init, frozen)
> >              675                                 #  in __init__.  Use
> >         "self" if possible.
> >              676                                 '__dataclass_self__' if
> >         'self' in fields
> >         --> 677                                     else 'self',
> >              678                                 ))
> >              679     if repr:
> >
> >
>  
> ~/.pyenv/versions/3.6.2/envs/clover_pipeline/lib/python3.6/site-packages/dataclasses.py
> >         in _init_fn(fields, frozen, has_post_init, self_name)
> >              422                 seen_default = True
> >              423             elif seen_default:
> >         --> 424                 raise TypeError(f'non-default argument
> >         {f.name <http://f.name>!r} '
> >              425                                 'follows default
> argument')
> >              426
> >
> >         TypeError: non-default argument 'other_field' follows default
> >         argument
> >
> >         I understand that this is a limitation of positional arguments
> >         because the effective __init__ signature is:
> >
> >         def __init__(self, some_default: dict = <something>,
> >         other_field: int):
> >
> >         However, keyword only arguments allow an entirely reasonable
> >         solution to this problem:
> >
> >         def __init__(self, *, some_default: dict = <something>,
> >         other_field: int):
> >
> >         And have the added benefit of making the fields in the __init__
> >         call entirely explicit.
> >
> >         So, I propose the addition of a keyword_only flag to the
> >         @dataclass decorator that renders the __init__ method using
> >         keyword only arguments:
> >
> >         @dataclass(keyword_only=True)
> >         class Bar(Foo):
> >              other_field: int
> >
> >         --George Leslie-Waksman
> >
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