# Re: [Python-ideas] PEP 572: Assignment Expressions (post #4)

```On 2018-04-11 05:23, Clint Hepner wrote:
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```I find the assignments make it difficult to pick out what the final expression
looks like.
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I strongly agree with this, and for me I think this is enough to push me to -1 on the whole proposal. For me the classic example case is still the quadratic formula type of thing:
```
x1, x2 = (-b + sqrt(b**2 - 4*a*c))/2, (-b - sqrt(b**2 - 4*a*c))/2

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It just doesn't seem worth it to me to create an expression-level assignment unless it can make things like this not just less verbose but at the same time more readable. I don't consider this more readable:
```
x1, x2 = (-b + sqrt(D := b**2 - 4*a*c)))/2, (-b - sqrt(D))/2

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. . . because having to put the assignment inline creates a visual asymmetry, when for me the entire goal of an expression-level statement is to make the symmetry between such things MORE obvious. I want to be able to write:
```
x1, x2 = (-b + sqrt(D)))/2, (-b - sqrt(D))/2 ...

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. . . where "..." stands for "the part of the expression where I define the variables I'm re-using in multiple places in the expression".
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The new proposal does at least have the advantage that it would help with things like this:
```
while x := some_function_call():
# do stuff

```
So maybe I'm -0.5 rather than -1. But it's not just that this proposal "could be used to create ugly code". It's that using it for expression-internal assignments WILL create ugly code, and there's no way to avoid it. I just don't see how this proposal provides any way to make things like the quadratic formula example above MORE readable.
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Brendan Barnwell
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