On Sat, Jun 09, 2018 at 09:17:37AM -0400, Juancarlo Añez wrote: > > Do you mean the context manager semantics of with statements? As in, > > calling the __enter__ and __exit__ method? > > > > No. Just the scope of the variables introduced, which is different in `with > as` and `except as`.
They aren't. They are the same scope: both `with` and `except` bind to a local variable. The only difference is that the `except` block implicitly unbinds the variable when the block ends. py> err = "something" py> try: ... None + 1 ... except TypeError as err: ... pass ... py> err Traceback (most recent call last): File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> NameError: name 'err' is not defined > > Please make sure you are very familiar with PEP 572 before you do, and > > expect to have your PEP compared to it. > > My intention would be to make the to proposals orthogonal, if possible, so > both/any can be accepted or rejected in their own timeline. > > I'm certain that both can live together. Seems redundant... while (condition := expression) as flag: ... Accepting "while/if as name" would remove much (but not all) of the motivation for assignment expressions, while accepting assignment expressions would make a dedicated while/if as name syntax unnecessary. Like it or not, I expect that they will be seen as competing PEPs, not independent ones. -- Steve _______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/