And I've taken owners off because I don't know how to solve this short of removing Google Groups somehow or getting off of email and switching to Zulip or Discourse. If someone has a solution that doesn't require dropping email then let me know.
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 04:17 Stephen J. Turnbull, < turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > I've cc'd python-ideas-owner, the folks who can actually do something > about it. > > Chris Barker via Python-ideas writes: > > > I've been replying to messages lately, and getting a bounce back: > [...] > > And it's not quite clar to me if the message actually got through. > > In my experience it does, because when this happens to me it's due to > my reply-all inserting both python.org and googlegroups addresses in > the To and Cc fields. > > > IIUC, this is a Mailman list -- so it must be getting mirrored > > through google groups, and at least with some people's posts, the > > reply-to header is getting messed up. > > > > Anyone know what's going on? > > I'm not sure about the process in your case. What I've experienced is > that there are a couple of people who use googlegroups to read, and > when they post for some reason both the python.org and the > googlegroups addresses end up as addressees. This might be Google > trying to monopolize mailing lists by putting the googlegroups address > in Reply-To, or it might be a poster error of using reply-all and not > cleaning out the googlegroups address (which doesn't bother them > because they're subscribed at googlegroups and googlegroups > deduplicates). > > For historical reasons I use reply-all, so both addresses end up in > the addressees, and it bounces from googlegroups if I don't clean it > up. > > > It would be nice to fix this... > > My personal approach would be to blackhole posts containing > googlegroups addresses in any header field, but that probably won't > fly. ;-) > > I think it's probably not that hard to add some code to some handler > in Mailman's pipeline to strip out googlegroups addresses from the > list of addressees in outgoing posts, and if that makes googlegroups > unreliable, so be it. It shouldn't, though, because the googlegroup > is subscribed to the list at python.org. > > I don't see why this shouldn't be done globally for all lists at > python.org, for all googlegroups addresses. AFAIK there are no > non-list mailboxes at googlegroups that would want to receive mail > there. > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > Python-ideas mailing list > Python-ideas@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ >
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