The concatenated name reads a little weird. Alternatively, extend the
conditional expression syntax.

a = b if None c

equivalent to
a = b if b is None else c


On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Robert Vanden Eynde <robertv...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> If we're about to use a new keyword, it could be infix too:
>
> a = b ifnone c
>
> Although the assignment version looks unusual:
>
> b ifnone= c
>
> Then with the "default b = c" would look like this:
>
> ifnone b = c
>
> Le jeu. 19 juil. 2018 à 15:30, Calvin Spealman <cspea...@redhat.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> Operators that only vary by case would be... confusing. I'm not super
>> keen on the other syntax (either the ?? or .? operators) but I do think
>> they read well in C# where they come from. Different things work in
>> different languages, some times.
>>
>> What about a new keyword: default
>>
>> So you'd write the above examples like this:
>>
>> default hi = len(a)  # Only executes the assignment if the left-hand is
>> None
>> default encoding = sys.getdefaultencoding()
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Pål Grønås Drange <paal.dra...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> > I've started a subthread, just to discuss the ?= and ?? operators. And
>>> > something newish, that I call OR.
>>>
>>> I would think `||` would be much better.
>>>
>>> It could be a kind of "semantic or" which could use the aforementioned
>>> dunder has_value.
>>>
>>> -1, though, but to the general None-awareness.
>>>
>>> Pål
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